3 Scottish Kings Found and a Princess, within my Grandmother's Lines:
1001 Duncan I, King of Scots , Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland
1031 Malcolm III** *, 'Canmore', King of Scots
& Saint Margaret, Queen of Scots, Dunkeld, Perthshire
**(he assassinated and usurped "Lulach")
*Northumberland, England (killed in battle near Alnwick)
1083 David I, King of Scots Maud /Matilda de Senlis, Countess of Huntingdon, Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
1114 Henry of Scotland (his uncle was King Henry I of England, married to his aunt Edith) and his wife Ada de Warenne, Countess of Huntingdon, Kelso, Roxburghshire, Scotland
*Daughter of Henry of Scotland was Margaret de Huntingdon, Princess of Scotland
* only listed with my Grandmothers line, no star indicates both Grandparents share the same royal ancestor of King Edward III, 21 generations ago.
An oldie king, I discovered through the surnames a few years ago, during the 1300 time frame. A Scottish King, found through his daughter Margaret Stewart.
Robert II of Scotland:
I know you want a story about him, but, there are many others wanting their picture-day also.
(I'm starting to refurbish the site, with larger images. Too many historical images, have been over-reduced for the web. Note: my too-tiny Chesters!)
Henry the first King of England:
He died of poisoning, from overeating the eel fish called lamphreys.
Possibly a problem that exists even today, to over-imbibe on the river snake, may actually find ones-self at deaths-end quickly. It may be a descendant poisoner specifically, kinda like an avoidfish, for the Beauclerc children, etc. It's an inland variety, here in France.
from wiki:
[Henry I, also known as Henry Beauclerc, was King of England from
1100 to 1135. Henry was the fourth son of William the Conqueror and was
educated in Latin and the liberal arts.]
I was trying to get to the king-line, away from Edward the third and found a line through, much earlier...with the Earls of Chester.
The Earls of Chester, with Rundulf, le Meschin, and others, are inner-fixed in Normandy, Calvados region for quite a while, and the Guernons, built at least one castle during that time. There was a web-page stating 50 or so manor houses in conjunction were given to the Chester Earls, in the Guernon area, so I suppose they are somewhere on the books as a property title that is historically deed-owned.
The Earls of Chester
& Kings of the Scots,
through The Vaux line
Circa 1080: House of Dunkeld, and Bruce
Ranulf de Briquessart
Ranulf le Meschin, 3rd Earl of Chester
Ranulf de Gernon, 4th Earl of Chester
Hugh Kevelioc 5th Earl of Chester
David of Scotland, 9th earl of Huntington
Robert Brewes, 4th lord of Annandale
Sir Robert Brewes 5th lord of Annandale
Sir Robert le Brus, 1st Lord Brus
Robert the first Bruce, King of Scotland
Margaret Goz
Lucy of Bolingbroke
Maud of Gloucester
Bertrade de Monfort of Evreux
Matilda (Maud) of Chester
Isobel of Huntington
Isabella de Clare, of Gloucester and Hertford
Marjorie Countess of Carrick
Isabela of Mar
from Robert Bruce & Isabela Ambassador to Denmark
Walter Stewart, 6th high Stewart
Robert I I Stewart King of Scotland
David Stewart first Earl of Caithness
Patrick Graham Straithearn
Malise Graham
Robert Vaux
Blaise Vaux
Patrick Vans
Alexander Vans
Marjorie Bruce, the Princess of Scotland
Eupheme de Ross, Countess of Moray
Lindsey
Eupheme Stewart
Marion Campbell
Euphemia Graham
Elizabeth Stabos
Mary Kennedy
Euphemia Graham
to Euphemia Graham wife, son Patrick Vans & his wife Catherine Kennedy
Circa 1575: The Normandy Dynasty: from maud's parents above:
Rollo
William the 1st “Longsword”
Richard “the fearless” Duke of Normandy
Richard “the good” 2nd Duke of Normandy
Robert “the magnificent” 1st Duke of Normandy
William the Conquerer, King of England
King Henry Beauclerc of England, the First
Robert The 1st Earl of Gloucester, Robert de Caen
Ranulf de Gernon, 4th Earl of Chester
Poppa
Luitgarde Vermandois
Gunorra, Duchess of Norway
Judith of Brittany
Herleva of Falaise
Matilda of Flanders
Eupheme de Ross, Countess of Moray
Mabel FitzRobert, of FitzHamon
Maud of Gloucester, Countess of Chester
to Daughter of Conan 1 duke of Brittany and Ermingarde of Anjou
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I am a little bit time lost:
The Robert Vaux-----Huntington line also goes to
'David I 'the Saint'King of Scotland
born around 1080, to his father:
King Malcolm III 'Caennmor' King of Scotland
and Saint Margaret of Exile, leading to her mother as Agatha of Kiev.
Malcolm is buried in the El Escorial Palace in Madrid.
A lot of new info, with "The Normandy Dynasty" and "William the Conquerer",
as well as, more of the Robert Kings of Scotland,
and "Henry the first" as an English King, with "The Earls of the Chester Line".
Leading into... Aethelrred "The Unready".
So many new names, even Malet, though tech problems have persisted,
and I just can't get gedcom to work with ubuntu, it crashed the server, and I had to re-install.
My little chart program can't handle it anymore. So, I re-made the charts above, to help document it.
Because... going back to the castle keeper ages, 700-1000 yrs can be time-consuming.
There was also a Portugal Province, given to "Ranulf Guernon",
from King Alfonso the 1st, leading to another "Red-haired link" in the south for the Vaux's.
This is getting embarassing, the "my line" talk, but I have to indulge a little while, I discovered today the Kingdom of Castile, with King Ferdinand III, and his father Alfonso IV through the british side, of King Edward I, also a discovery of another Vaux line, that of Harrowden.
I thought the King line was to France only from the Plantagent Kings, yet there was Eleanor Castile. Whose father was Ferdinand III of Castile, bringing in a young looking curley red-blondish type.
I wanna tease at his shoes, but, no, I discovered a few more surnames, away from this poetic ruler. -------------------
There was a moment around my Saunders line, where the saunders was not being found as being married to a Whetenhall, but it was recovered to find Alice Aly of Berkeley.
In those times, genealogy is really bad for the heart. To have a kingdom one day and feel it was all lost, because of an online database, stating another name.
I prefer to already know my convictions of purpose rather than require these lines as a necessity, but the peoople are so diatribed into this family tree being exact. It does seem odd, when years before, great leaders simply took over, rather than databased into rule.
I guess I'm a woman with no sword nor army, so I have been jestered into its work servitude, of proof.
A shame to those who require the witness in proof any further.
I know I am being silly, at the moment, but it does appear that from this one line, I personally encompass, most of europes property.
Yell, yell, yell, say the others "so do I", yet where are they in form or standing of the finality in purposes, only living as after sayers, "I coulda done that", well they didn't. So your stuck with me for a while.
Yes, through the ferrers there is chocolate around those rochers but not today, only the ferrers and radcliffs, somehow redirecting me to spain, along with many new names of find.
from around saunders and whetenhall. see the surname update page for more details, as unruly as it is,
I try to keep it as up to date as possible. Why this genealogy searching is so upsetting into ups and downs, names here and then gone, along with the have-to of distancing away from others in order to succeed with a database.
It's become tremendously fierce, in genealogy searching as of late,
as to feel armies of no-lovers chase, merely to run you over, with their complete histories found.
John I plantagent King of England Henry II plantagent King of England, born in Le mans (the fast king) married to Eleanor of Aquitaine, Henry III plantagent King of England,
The EU Castle Collective; brought to you through my Capetian Dynasty heredity, The Vaux Kingdom of France:
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Castle Surnamed Descendants: Meaning the Chateau, Castle or Palace name is:
either your current last name or one of your ancestors last names (surname). Min. of 3 French Castle letters, Castle Facet list.
If you are of non-blood lined descent, and the Chateau name is your current last name,
and has also been the last name of your ancestors for several generations, then you are also included.
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Non-Castle Surnamed Persons;
The Castle Hotels that are completed, by the Collective will not all be exclusive, therefore if you are not on the Chateau list with an ancient Castle surname from France... you can still stay in one of our completed accommodations, from Tipee camping to 5 star, or visit a castle with a museum.
written in France and the USA, (Soon most of the castles will be linked to their history or vineyard page. The new Versaille-looking castles are ok, all amenities and dining, but I still prefer the older castles architecturally, less of the Mansards also.)
The Vaux Kingdom's holdings include:
any castle named with inferences of Vaux, Beau, or Baux,*
and refer to the Vaux's and their newer surnames, that are direct-descendants from the Capet Kings Line.
Vaux was last in use in Scotland, as a Laird, before they became Vans and more recent versions, etc.
Listed on the bottom of this page is a large link list with regions: of old chateaus: ruins, private owns, hotels, vineyards, museums.
most are the phonetic spellings of my ancestors: (Some of my namesakes for the EU Castle Collective, ownership game (surname facet links are the the top right)
I begin with Castles my name-saked from Scotland & England and then France.
Vau (Bau, Beau, Vos)- Fon (Von) - Gui (Gue, Guy) & Roc (Roche)
names of the regions have not all been included, like the Roche-Guyon or Vosges, so it's incomplete, yet still a vast list.
The Capetti King Take-over:
French-surnamed persons with Chateaus, from the Capet Kings,
that ascended from King Edward 11 and 111 through Philippa and Isabela of France:
French Royal Property Holdings
This particular line, has 15 or so, reigns of French Kings.
With these 15 reigns, includes, the members of my French royalty.
The other surnames shared with my Capetian Line,
such as Berkeley, are direct descendants of the Capets.
Yet, they did not continue with their French connection,
and do not have any castles here, to my knowledge.
therefore they are not included as part of our royal property holdings here in France.
These properties of chateaus and museums, etc,
that are part of the Royale Vaux's directly owned property holdings.
We can call them then "The Capetti's" for short.
It sounds like millions of people would have sprouted, from the French Capets, but due to several reasons the line was sparce: The Capetian Kings in general, had very few childen, and in later years of French Royalty and other Aristocracy it was made fashionable as to even have no children. Bringing the constant question: of who would inherit the throne? Leaving even Marie Antoinette in charge of France, to idle with the Kingdoms wealth.
Which brought the massive ousting of the Royals from France, with the French Revolution.
A history that is re-played, each year with the August celebration "Bastile Day". The day which still commemorates the peasant class away from Monarchy rule.
The Aristocracy with their less-to-no children, were even guillotined by the revolutionaries, abruptly ending their blood-line forever. Others who escaped, such as the Fontaines, were helped by declaring themselves as religiously persecuted Huguenauts, rather than Aristocracy, in order to avoid being be-headed. The name Fontaine changed here in America, quite quickly, as followers could have found them out even that far away from France.
I'm even going to including more, surnames, thusly people, from other french lines, through other grandparents,
and certainly one of the first is that of the Fontaine family due to Fontainebleau,
because as Capetti Kings we formerly lived and died there, several times.
With that pairing agreement over the years, many persons and other surnames,
of persons would not be here, therefore as such an ancient names,
we are forever inextricably linked as the keepers of france for at least another 500 years or so.
Typical Capetian Surnames
Back to the many French Capetti surnames, and their children,
It seems like a monstrosity of a list, but not everyone is inclined to be as enthusiastic as I am,
and presume they even wish to denounce several of our Vaux intentions as lessors.
In that old heat they build, if we choose to declare ourselves under their terms, we lose what is our inheritable rights of dominion. Please understand they are not all moving to France, so, perhaps they need to stay in America or wherever.
Why would they reject the offer? wimp, wimp, on the wimpa: Many reasons, estrangement types, and nationalistic clingers, of only these past 100 yrs.
It's evident that not all lines under the Capet kings line will be of persons who can, at anytime in their mind or adventure self-state, become a new royale family again. Due to weaker line input from non-political persons.
The "tell me when its over and completed" group of, "and I'll join then", are not included, and lists of those person will be written as a ruling that they lost, the inclusion for themselves to be on grounds of any Vaux Kingdom Royal family property.
If one of their young adult or adult-children has the gumption to travel the distance, then, ok, we have can include the young adult on the list.
Some Castles styled as Resthomes
If after a time, what!!
we have set-up rest-homes at a few chateaus, for a few relatives,
and some decide its "ok", to be in with Vaux Kingdom.
Well, they still have to pay, for the services of the castle rest-homes. However some would be suited, like the Fontainebleau frontage view, with ground level, entrances.
Luckily, as plans are fortunate in "begin" here.
The extra payment to participate as a resthome member, would be paid into Surname Family-Trust. Assuming they were also castle owners within the *EU Castle Collective ownership, including the new specific amount for their group care.
Castle living-time (shared ownership) for a lifetime purchase for Castles eligible to your surnames. ie. 1000 Fontaines, purchase-sharing either 1 Fon castle as all theirs 365 days a yr., or several Fon castles due to their group charter (summer at this castle and a summer next at another: ie., tipee camping etc, with other people of "Fons" surnames: All Collective members with the possibility to create a business venture from the castle itself).
Not really a quick Vaux Castle list
Detailing peerage ownerships, of castles such as de Carew. (the de carew's are not with the King Edward III line. though they are of castle surname importance, as the original builder-owner.)
The Berry territory: Cher, Indre, and parts of Viennes.
Interjecting surnamed persons of each European castle, named by that surname, as the correct original deeded proprietor with rights to claim.
The Vaux Kingdoms acceptance of Beaux castles and territories that are without ownerships, formerly held by the governments of the old EU. under the names of national trusts and heritage society holdings.
Habloid testing of the surnames from King Edward the III. (the castle time keeper of europe's royal families.)
Dysfunctioning Wales as a border territory within Great Britain. (helping to remove county to county hatreds.)
where my: Royal Ancestors were born, lived-in and died, over the centuries: (Not all of these British and Scottish castles am I surnamed-after. Many were more so, kept as Royal residences and inhabited by the Royals of the time.)
Kenilworth Castle with John of Gaunt's Great Hall Leicester Castle (death of:
Prince, John of Gaunt, son of King Edward the III.)
Northam & Werke
Beaumont Palace
Newarkcastle
Caernarvon
Berkeley
Buckingham (Bingham)
Carew (Carreu)
Stirling Castle (taken by siege King Edward I.)
Windsor Castle (birth of: King Edward III.)
Sheen Palace (Death of King Edward III.)
Surnamed Departments of France (cantons of France)
Newer Chateaus, are still applicable to claim or share ownership rights, as long as the ancient surname is in-use..
Roquetaillade
Vaux-Vicomte Fontainebleau
Clairavaux (Puyravaux)
Château de Gombervaux
Chinon castle Angers
Beaumont le Vieux (Vaucluse) Baux de Provence Beauregard (2)
Beaufort
Haut-Ribeaupierre
Beauville
Gavaudun (Gevaudan)
Beaugency
Beaumont-sur-Oise Beaucaire Saint-Germain-Beaupré Beaumont-le-Richard Corcelles-en-Beaujolais Vaudémont Le château de Vaux-sur-Seine Château des Vaux au Puy-en-Velay Vauclair Airvault Vaussèche Vautheau
Rochetaillée Roquetaillade and any others such as Roche, font, and guy* within the name held under the heritage councils. such as: Rochebaron. Rocher La Roche-Jagu La Rochepot
Rochechouart La Rochefoucauld La Rochecourbon Rochechinard La Roche La Roche-sur-Foron Auberoche Roquefixade Roquelaure Larroque Larroque-Engalin Pouy-Roquelaure Larroque-Toirac Roquebrune-Cap-Martin Roquefort Roquessels Villiers-le-Mahieu
additional castles names are at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_castles_in_France
other Vaux lookups are : La Lorraine (bleu) et le comté de Vaudémont (orange) vers 1250.
This is a page Re-organization area under-construction: with newly found chateaus and town names, mixed-in with some of the previously found chateaus yet including their updated town names:
A database crew, could help coalesce, this EU castle collection business model. Further helping to release the EU and it's individual countries of their obligations, especially the older ruins; by returning them to their name-saked heirs and descendants for repairs and keeping.
"Descendants of these Castles have an obligation to rebuild their historical sites. They are not for the EU, nor the EU taxpayers responsibility to claim. The Journey into the question of wonder, will finally be answered, and the "Vacancy of their Keepers" will be resolved, by restoring their native owners as their charge."
Manoir de Vauville and its botanical gardens in Vauville, private, open to visitors Château de La Fresnaye in La Fresnaye-au-Sauvage. Birthplace of Nicolas Vauquelin Des Yveteaux (1567–1649), French poet. Château du Vaudroc in Limpiville
Hôtel de Beaumont (town residence) in Valognes, private, open to visitors Château de Beaumesnil in Beaumesnil
Château de Beaumont-le-Richard in Englesqueville-la-Percée private
Château de Beaumont-le-Richard, ruins, farm
Château de Vascœuil in Vascœuil
Vau
Château de Courtanvaux, in Bessé-sur-Braye, XVe Gothique
Château de Vaulogé, in Fercé-sur-Sarthe
Château de Saint-Denis-la-Chevasse, in Saint-Denis-la-Chevasse Château d'Aillières-Beauvoir, in Aillières-Beauvoir
Château de Baugé, Maine-et-Loire
Château de Château-Thébaud, Château-Thébaud
Château du Bois Thibault, in Lassay-les-Châteaux
Roc
Château de la Roche-Pichemer, in Saint-Ouën-des-Vallons
Château de La Roche-sur-Yon Destroyed during rebuilding the napoleonic era.
Château du Rocher, in Mézangers
Gui
Château de la Guibourgère, in Teillé
Château de la Guignardière, in Avrillé
Château de Sillé, in Sillé le Guillaume, XVe
Villages and Cities with Chateaus
*Château d'Angers, Angers
Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Château des Baux
Château de Beaumont le Vieux
Vaucluse, Avignon
Roc
Château de Roquebrune-Cap-Martin
Château de Roquefort, Roquefort-les-Pins, ruine,
Château de Roquefort, Rochefort-en-Valdaine,ruine,
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Fon Villages and Cities and Countries with Chateaus:
Château de Terre Neuve, in Fontenay-le-Comte
Gui Villages and Cities and Countries with Chateaus:
Château de Vimer in Guerquesalles Château du Bucheron, Bosmie-l'Aiguille
Château d'Helfedange in Guinglange
Château du Bosc Théroulde in Bosc-Guérard-Saint-Adrien, "gue" is debatable
French Guiana, British Guiana , Dutch Guiana, Guyane, South America
The Guianas, Guyanas, South America
Roc Villages and Cities and Countries with Chateaus:
Château de la Gane, 15th to 16th century, Saint-Exupéry-les-Roches
Chateaus officially built by Ancestors:
Château Gaillard, 1196. Richard the Lionheart, Built in 2 years by Richard the Lionheart, early concentric castle of advanced design. Château de Caen, 11-15th century, restored, Built c.1060 by William the Conqueror, keep pulled down 1793, damaged by bombs during World War II.
*the original surnames back to Vau, Roche, Guy, and Fon(t), Ber, were originally clans of France.
Variable endings parting ways and moving onto other districts.
"I am named Rochefort, of the Roche Clan and declare these new lands as "Rochefort", as mine thus. Regards, "Therese"
The Monopoly Business of Keeping Chateaus:
The Non-Capetti (Non-Capet, Non-Capetian) Personal Surnamed Chateaus:
One quick way to dismantle the confusion of "It's my castle",
as says one surnamed person, adamantly, to a person who shares his surname.
One method is.... with a large surname family, then let it be a massive group purchase:
All the "surname persons of "Roche - such and such" pay 1,000 each, and the castle is thereby the families, and they have a place to stay on holiday.
With higher amounts going for the longer stay persons.
Free rents going to the surnamed castles, builder workers and estate keepers, during major reconstructions, later after the rebuilds, keeping a few of the free rent estate keepers for basic duties, gardens, greet and meets, etc.
That is a case that works,
when no one has any idea who really is the direct line
to the original seats of the region, or locality at the
time the chateaus was built. Yet, they hold namesake value.
The original seats were normally held by the Dukes,
Counts, Earls, Kings and Queens, and even the Marquisse'. Whereas
siblings of these chateaus were not always given such elaborately political obligations
In this reason, not all persons of a surname can be treated equally, because if one has an ancestor that held a high position, such as Duke, rather than a cousin with the same surname, they were not actually a legitimate blood-line from the keeper of the castle and region(s) itself..only the Duke's line is.
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If the answer of the original castle seated owners is known, then
we have help further, as those descendants have the more rights over the
deed, under the Kingdom itself.
Such as with Treverez, (if it is a non-capet) ie:
all the original seat descendants of that small castle,
are able to purchase it directly,
therefore, it's not fair for one to buy the property-out over the others,
because many they inherited the blood-line equally.
In the Treverez situation if the Treverez family is found,
they have to share the property.
Bank Loan:
Many grouped families of these surnamed castles may still require a bank loan,
if from the Vaux Kingdom (if it materialized) expressly for this purpose, I am setting it at 5%.
Otherwise a regular bank loan or an EU assistance loan.
